9dp5dt Beta 1 = 344!! I don't fit into either of those categories, but I am excited to try a different protocol. They said I would, I just completed a second round of IVF/ICSI. Decided to cancel on day 9. Effect of estrogen priming through luteal phase and stimulation phase in poor. numbness or tingling of the hands or feet. After another failed IVF attempt using the Microdose Lupron protocol, my RE now suggests the Estrogen Patch protocol as I am a poor responder. '13 Attempt at IVF #1 with Lurpon Flare- Canceled due to ovulation through Lupron.Sept. Only 4 eggs were mature and 4 fertilized with ICSI. Infertility doesn't go away after the first positive test. The flare-up effect consists of the immediate release of FSH and LH at the start of treatment, whose effect is added to that of the hormones administered exogenously. Er 5: oct 2020 - same protocol as er 4- 4 mature eggs, no blasts. I hate long stims. Because my follicle growth was so dysfunctional during my first round my doctor has decided to try a microdose lupron flare protocol starting with 5 weeks of birth control which ends on Monday. Hi ladies,My RE proposed for my IVF#5 the micro flare protocol with BCP priming. 14 and 13. Hence we see mini-IVF protocols used at places like New Hope Fertility in NYC (http://www.newhopefertility.com/?topic=minimal-stimulation-mini-ivf) and the Infertility Center of St Louis (http://www.infertile.com/closlook/biograph.htm); and, 5/15 I am currently priming with growth hormone waiting for my period. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. There seems to be two schools of thought: me 33/DH 36ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~11 IUIs = 1 m/c (7w4d)IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFNSurprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160Stick Frogger Stick! 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. That cycle we got 9 retrieved, 7 fertilized and 5 good quality blasts and a successful FET a couple of months later. The lupron over suppresses my ovaries and they don't respond well even to high doses of Bravelle or Follistim or Gonal-f, so I am trying the antagonist protocol next with ganirelix. I was diagnosed with high FSH (16). I did 10 days of BCP, then Lupron, repronex and Gonal-F for about 10 days. No MFI at all. Thoughts on different protocols? 600mg Ibprofin(sp?) crazy how we have to get creative, huh?? 0000017159 00000 n You and your husband will start your Doxycycline antibiotics today. 3 failed IUI's In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. Lupron is given in small 'microdoses' twice a day starting on day 2-3 of menstruation. . Non left to freeze --> BFN IVF#5 (April/May 2014): Antagonist Estrogen Priming -Cornell Protocol (Clomid+ Menopur+Gonal F + Orgalutran) This is how my current clinic intends to proceed. Has anyone used this protocol and had any success? This community is sponsored by RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association, an Inspire trusted partner. The calendar shown above is an example of how the cycle stimulation may evolve. Apparently we waited too long ? NATURAL EFFORTS: 1st pregnancy and miscarriage in Dec/Jan 2016, successfully treated miscarriage with mis, Hi Ladies, Our issues: low AMH (0.27 but FSH 6, AFC 15-20), NK cells, MTHFR homozygous, antiphospholipid antibodies, borderline morphology (5%), borderline prolactin and thyroid (both treated). Maybe it is too soon for bloating. Then my friend hadsuccess with Micro dose lupron flareprotocol so I asked my dr to put me on the exact same one. Besides, I hear regular lupron sucks so I'm grateful I didn't have to do that part. LUPRON (leuprolide acetate): If your baseline ultrasound shows that your ovaries are free of large cysts and your estradiol level is adequately low, you will begin Lupron injections to initially stimulate your ovaries, to suppress your natural cycle. I did estrogen priming with no BCP for this cycle (in addition to several other changes). Both my l, Short protocol or long protocol for older women. Had 20 eggs retrieved. Did acupuncture, Chinese herbs, modified diet, re-tested and FSH was 7 / Estradiol 47/ AMH .4 Round Two Result 4/30: Harsh BFN They removed 11 eggs, made 8 embryos, none made it past day 3. IVF#4 (Dec2013/Jan 2014): Microdose flare+Saizen+testosterone 4 eggs retrieved, all mature and fertilized by ICSI, ET of 1 6-cell embryo an 1 8-cell embryo graded 2 and 3. I am 42. Our IVF #1 was cancelled in March due to low response to stims. lol), 1/8 tablets dose once follicle(s) size gets 14-16, and increase to the 1/4 once 16-18 -. And I wasnt pregnant. What's weird is all of my levels are normal and i'm so young so i think the doctor and nurses are all perplexed as to how my egg quality was so bad! 2TFR'ed. No DOR, PCOS or Endometriosis. Long-term Storage for Eggs, Sperm & Embryos. Previous studies comparing E2 priming and leuprolide flare IVF protocols report that E2 priming protocols result in longer cycles and higher total gonadotropin dose with similar oocyte yield, fertilization, and pregnancy rates; though, one report suggests a trend toward higher quality embryos in E2 priming cycles. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. Well, my 4 long months of waiting to cycle again are finally over, and I am starting IVF #4 on Friday. I just pray it works. What should we try that we haven't already? So, we concluded that the microdose flare-up protocol may have a better outcome in poor-responder patients. Since then its been a nightmare to thicken my lining. Im 42, have DOR and my AMH is .90. Any help would be greatly appreciated looking for hope this time around.. Hi everyone, does anyone have any thoughts on which protocol is better for older women and which protocol is best for retrieving good quality, chromosomally normal eggs? The patient is given twice-weekly injections of estradiol valerate (Delestrogen) for a period of 8 days whereupon COS is initiated using a relatively high dosage FSH- (Follistim, Fostimon, Puregon or Gonal F), which is continued along with daily administration of GnRH antagonist until the "hCG "trigger." IVF #2 Nov '118R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical, IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN, IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie. What now - IUI, Adoption, Donor Eggs or Donor Embryos, Retire Early?! Round Three Result 6/25: BFN The use of MCDL can improve the patient's response to gonadotropin therapy. Slow growing/No follicles with Lupron Stop protocol? They did ICSE and both, I was reading another post about the cost of meds. Meanwhile, we're running out of solutions. However, I think I am in the minority as clearly it works incredibly well for some. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. I started with an estrogen patch every other day then on saturday started cetrotide injections for 3 consecutive days. We got pregnant with my first IUI, but miscarried within 2 weeks. Instead we are doing estrogen priming followed by microdose lupron. They are concerned about egg quality. The clinic I was with was horribly unorganized, I never saw my doctor, and dealing with insurance was a nightmare which made every, Looking for advice Lupron, a GnRH agonist, is one of the best known and most hated of IVF treatment injectable fertility drugs. What did do when you had a cancelled IVF cycle? I did microdose Lupron flare protocol for my first cycle back in August. From what I have read, it is common in women with DOR and poor responders. Please!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope it makes the difference for you! When you all say protocol what do you mean? At my age of 42, I am praying for more than 7 or 8 eggs and better quality for PGS testing. Called GnRH antagonists, these medications work differently than the GnRH agonists like Lupron. We've been trying for 3 years. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. I'm about to start a microdose lupron flare cycle tomorrow! Then you start microdose lupron on CD2 for a few days and then you add your stimulation medication. I am just terrified it will be like my last cycle. Moving to IVF This is my second attempt at ivf my first ivf was unsuccessful no embryos made it to day 5. Austin, Texas 78731, 16040 Park Valley Drive Building 1, Ste 201 So if it's not alright, it is not yet the end. IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. The use of Lupron to trigger egg maturation over the past 4-5 years has gained popularity when given in a single higher dose (4mg) with aggressive supplementation of estrogen and progesterone following the egg retrieval. with this protocol, and a general timeline for when things happen when you don't do BCP suppression beforehand New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Round One Result: Chemical Pregnancy 0000017388 00000 n HiI'm new. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. It's a Girl, EDD April 7, 2014. Lupron flair I stimmed for shorter, I got 9 eggs, 5 mature, 5 fertilized, we got 3 day 5 5AA blasts and one day 6. My blog about IF and loss Stimulation Day 4 Come in for an E2 and LH blood test. Setting: Anatolia Women and IVF Center. (Intralipids and Lovenox). After taking a break from infertility to regroup (in which I drank approximately 20 drinks in one evening and was hungover until 7pm the following day, oops), we had out WTF conf call with our RE to go over what happened last cycle/ get some closure/ get a game plan for next time. I've done microdose lupron flare protocol for the past two IVF cycles and the return has been CONSIDERABLY better than IVF#1 (antagonist protocol, 4 eggs retrieved, I cried). DH 38- Low EverythingMe 33- AMH .9Married 11 years 2002-current IUIs, meds, natural = All BFNAug. Some background on our situation: Dr. C apologized for the fucking nightmare of a cancelled cycle, and implied that maybe the other doctor we were seeing in the practice should have put the breaks on way before day 10 because there was LITERALLY NO RESPONSE. IVF protocol. 0000001040 00000 n So- that's what's going on. 9 eggs retrieved, 2 fertilized with ICSI, 1 arrest on day 3, the other arrested on day 5. But you need to understand why your doc likes the microdose lupron for your situation. I'm reading so much about low stim for DOR and over 40 works better that make me very nerveous about trying high doses. Earnest Letter. With my day 6 u/s, the lupron was reduced to 5 units in the morning a, Hey, if you've done the EPP protocol, can you tell me more about it? Hi has anyone done a MENOPUR only cycle? 13R. In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. sudden, severe decrease in blood pressure and collapse. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. We did EPP for this last IVF (#4) and it was our best cycle by far. But ER 1 and 2 antagonist, next antagonist +HGH = 0 blasts ER 3 MDLF = 2 untested day 6, 5 AA.. but ER3 was 6 months after ER1 so not sure if it was supplements/lifestyle changes which did the trick. Your diagnosis of My little one is a success story from MDL! Start Lupron: Start your microdose Lupron 20 units subcutaneous injection twice a day. In 2018 after 4 rounds of ivf I had my daughter. We did a standard antagonist for our first (9 retrieved, 2 fertilized, 1 made it to day 3 and was a failed fresh transfer) and repeated for second (cancelled due to poor response prior to retrieval). Has anyone done this Lupron STOP protocol? Ipersonally didnt want to put my body thru all those meds again so we just adopted 3 young healthyembryos from a family similar to ours and we are so excited our son will end up with a sibling or maybe two! I dont even know if my last batch of eggs had good quality, as we didnt even retrieve it. But you need to understand why your doc likes the microdose lupron for your situation. A Comparison of the Microdose Leuprolide Protocol vs. Luteal Phase Ganirelix Protocol in Women Who Are or Who Are Predicted to be Low Responders (LR) The safety and scientific validity of this study is the responsibility of the study sponsor and investigators. i.really hope.that this year brings me some.good.news..thanks.for sharing your story. Antagonist Protocol or Short Protocol: This is the most commonly used IVF . I dont want to keep trying protocols and not succeeding. Thanks all, I really appreciate all of you in this forum. I am not familiar with it, but I will definitely some research. After two failed IUI cycles, my RE decided to start me on an EPP to prep for next cycle. Go back for a check on Thursday. Suite 1200 ", Feb'12- July'12-testing(all clear minus slight arcuate ute), 3 IUI with clomid all BFN, ET 9/14 2 embies transferred. Amazing! 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. 0000006212 00000 n The number of daily injections are fewer (4 to 5 days) of antagonists versus 3-4 weeks of agonists) and the length of time to stimulate the follicles to maturity is one or two days shorter, so you may need less total gonadotropins. October '13 Started BCP for December IVF. We retrieved 8 eggs and 8 were fertilized. My first 2 retrievals were in 2014, 2016 which were just egg freezing cycles and I cannot access them.now due to covid. I did 2 FETs but did not get pregnant, Now I have just one embryo left. Then 2X10U Lupron and 2X225U Gonal-F per day for 10 days. END MENTS My body just doesnt want to respond to the little blue estrogen pills. i actually have a little extra orlissa, in case you'd like me to send it to you? Anyway, I am doing the EPP this round and was curious to hear some of your experiences with it. xref We had some other changes too, with DH. Foll, and Meno. And any other recommendations on clinics? So I am 38 and about to start IVF number 2. Yay! That's amazing and.congratulations. My cycle "might" be cancelled. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. We started IVF due to MFI, i did a long lupron short stim cycle last month and it failed due to being a poor responder. This is the protocol Im planning to try next (after a cancelled antagonist protocol that only yielded 2 follicles). I did microdose lupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. EPP with CCRM has been my best cycle yet in regards to embryo quantity and quality! Lupron Depot is used in men to treat the symptoms of prostate cancer (but does not treat the cancer itself). So I know that you begin with birth control (but I, I've had one unsuccessful IVF and one that had such a poor response we turned it into an IUI instead. Two different clinics. High FSH. Any success stories for low responders of Estrogen Priming cycle? At 39, you still have a good chance. What was your protocol before? 0000003164 00000 n We have a new nurse who's not a dumb bitch (like my other nurse that failed to tell me I would have a withdrawal bleed after stopping BCP before IVF). This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. 43 &37 eggs?! 07/23 - Injection #1 I tried an antagonist with no down regulation and of course ovulated early. IVF1 (ICSI): Long Lupron Read Review Toronto Licence Claim Delta. Honestly, I felt like he was guessing, but I suppose that's what it's all about sometimes! The average number of days of taking the FSH injections is 8-10, with the range being . On the other hand, the Long Agonist protocol can't use Lupron as the trigger because it already deploys Lupron elsewhere. I'm looking for any feedback on microflare protocol using microdose lupron and ICSI. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. I need some bad-a$$ ladies to battle this with. So, yes, you can have better results the second time around and I really hope thats true for you! -We're both. When I picked up my meds today, and the guy told me which to refrigerate, he then quickly said "oh ya, you already know that. My second we moved from an antagonist to a Lupron stop protocol with PICSI and wound up with 8 embryos, 3 of which were PGS normal. Have questions about navigating your Inspire support community or need assistance from one of our Inspire Moderators? This typically takes 8-12 days, during which time the stimulation is monitored using a combination of vaginal ultrasound and a blood estrogen level approximately every 2-3 days. I tried IVF in may since my follicle count was low I cancelled it. I feel like it's always better to go slow & steady. I am currently waiting on my period. I performed poorly with estrogen priming, so we are taking it out now.hsve you started stim? I did 9 IVF attempts in 2 years - high stim, low stim, mid-stim, estrogen-priming. So we didnt biopsy & test then freeze. My FSH is 6.5. They are giving three more days on stimming before making the call. Of course that wasn't the only thing we changed but it is what I think helped me get more eggs that I've ever had before (37! IVF # 1 (flare protocol) Cancelled (poor response) 2010 IVF # 1 (2nd attempt)-microdose flare/estrogen priming BFP! Team Purple. Did they convert to IUI? Er 3- 2019 - follistim 450 iu + menopur 150 iu , bcp priming - 6 mature eggs- 2 day 5 blasts but both abnormal. My E2 never soared like some women'son the day of my trigger my E2 was only 1563, but I still got 16 eggs. Now is the perfect time to start your Baby Registry! Rather than slowly suppress the pituitary over 4-5 days like Lupron does, these newer medications, Cetrotide and Ganirelix Acetate rapidly suppress the pituitary in a matter of hours. Er 1: 5 mature eggs, follistim 200 iu everyday with ganirelix, no menopur, no priming - frozen. 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